How do I make outgoing calls via another provider?

#1
Hi all

I have the Linksys PAP2 with Voipfone as my main provider. However, I want to use Voipcheap for outgoing calls. sip.voipcheap.com

I assume the way to do this is by changing the dialplan.

Is there a good web site somewhere which explains in simple terms what on earth a dial plan is constructed of?

My current Voipfone dial plan makes no sense to me as yet:

(*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.)

Ideally I would like to use Voipfone for *some* calls, such as 0800, 1571, etc. and use things like 'ring back when busy' and the Outlook TAPI driver too.
Thanks in advance!
Chris

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#3
Hmm, thanks but using 2 phones isn't really an option. I have been told it is possible and easy to specify a different outgoing provider using a dial plan. What I haven't been told is how.

Your assumptions were right, that is what I want to achieve.. with one phone.
Thanks in advance!
Chris

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#6
Hi and thanks again.

Firstly addressing your other thread with a dial plan in it, I am concerned how different it is to Voipfone's one.

Theirs:
(*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.)

Yours:
<:01792>[1-9]xxxxxS0|0[1-8]xxxxxxxxxS0|001[1-9]xx[1-9]xxxxxS0|00[1-9] xxxxx.)

It seems to be missing a leading bracket too. And it doesn't work. I live in London (020) area code and replaced 01792 with 020. If I pick up and dial a local number like 8912 3456, I get an error tone. :cry:

What seems to work however is:
(<:020>[7-8]xxxxxxxS0|0[1-8]xxxxxxxxxS0|001[1-9]xx[1-9]xxxxxxS0|00[1-9]xxxxx.)

So you might want to update your thread! (The guide you found me came in handy!)

However it also seems to break Voipfone's 1571 dialability (a new word?) so it doesn't seem designed for Voipfone? You should probably make this clear.

We are getting somewhere, but I still can't use Voipcheap for outgoing calls. I was told it was so easy as well :( I thought people were using Dial Plans all over the place to route calls to different destinations through the cheapest provider for that dial code... :?
Thanks in advance!
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#7
You are correct I do need to update that thread!

This is my current dialling plan is as follows:
(*xx|<:01792>[2-8]xxxxxS0|0[1-8]xxxxxxxxxS0|1[1-9]xxS0|<112:01792456999>S0|123S0|150S0|152S0|154S0|155S0|<999:01792456999>S0|00[1-9]x.|090x!)

The reason why you are unable to dial 1571, 1471, 152,150 etc. is because of this part in your dial plan: (<:020>[7-8]xxxxxxxS0

Simply replace the 7-8 to 1-9

Or add this to your current dial plan if using Voipfone: |1[1-9]xxS0|112S0|123S0|150S0|152S0|154S0|155S0|999S0|
Last edited by WelshPaul on May 10th, 2006, 6:49 pm, edited 14 times in total.
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#8
Thanks. What's with the 999 thing? That goes to Swansea Police! Oops. How can I get it to go to my local emergency services switchboard?

Now all I need is someone who is able to tell me how to put outbound landline calls through Voipcheap.
Thanks in advance!
Chris

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#10
:lol: Haha can't say I blame you.

Although that said, I would like to include it in my dialplan so all mobile calls go through you (Voipfone), and only landline calls through Voipcheap. Any pointers?
Thanks in advance!
Chris

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#11
CJSnet wrote:Thanks. What's with the 999 thing? That goes to Swansea Police! Oops. How can I get it to go to my local emergency services switchboard?
Because voipfone do not offer any emergency services via 999 I have my dial plan call my local police station in the event of somebody dialing 999!

Better to be safe than sorry!

I also have a mobile and so does the wife so should we need to dial 999 we would use that. The 999 via my voipfone line is nothing more than a backup!

If you want to do the same just look for your nearest police station's phone number and use that!

With regards to your original question I can find no information anywhere about being able to setup a dial plan that allows you to do what you want it to do!

Therefore I am pretty sure it can't be done! (well with the PAP2 anyway!)
(I am happy to be proved wrong.)
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#12
fyi - We'll probably switch 999 on when Ofcom finishes the consultation process and clarifies the regulation surrounding it.
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#13
voipfone wrote:fyi - We'll probably switch 999 on when Ofcom finishes the consultation process and clarifies the regulation surrounding it.
Thanks. Off topic this - but in the meantime is there a geo number that diverts to 999 we can use?
Thanks in advance!
Chris

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#14
acoolwelshbloke wrote:With regards to your original question I can find no information anywhere about being able to setup a dial plan that allows you to do what you want it to do!

Therefore I am pretty sure it can't be done! (well with the PAP2 anyway!)
I am happy to be proved wrong.)
Hmm :? What about without a dial plan? By specifying different proxy servers?

How does SIPbroker manage to divert calls through itself using a dial plan? It uses this plan which specifies its proxy domain presumably:
L:20,S:7,( x | *xx | 911S0 | 1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 <:@sipbroker.com> | [x*][x*]. <:@sipbroker.com> | <#:>[x*][x*]. )

See also: http://faq.sipbroker.com/tiki-index.php ... r+DIY+VoIP
Thanks in advance!
Chris

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#15
voipfone wrote:fyi - We'll probably switch 999 on when Ofcom finishes the consultation process and clarifies the regulation surrounding it.
I am aware of this and thank you for informing others, I look forward to this feature but hope I never need to use it! :wink:
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#16
CJSnet wrote:
acoolwelshbloke wrote:With regards to your original question I can find no information anywhere about being able to setup a dial plan that allows you to do what you want it to do!

Therefore I am pretty sure it can't be done! (well with the PAP2 anyway!)
I am happy to be proved wrong.)
Hmm :? What about without a dial plan? By specifying different proxy servers?

How does SIPbroker manage to divert calls through itself using a dial plan? It uses this plan which specifies its proxy domain presumably:
L:20,S:7,( x | *xx | 911S0 | 1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxxS0 <:@sipbroker.com> | [x*][x*]. <:@sipbroker.com> | <#:>[x*][x*]. )

See also: http://faq.sipbroker.com/tiki-index.php ... r+DIY+VoIP
Well I have now upgraded my old post with a correct UK dial plan with information on 999 calling and premium rate call baring!

As for what your after I really don't think it's going to be possible with a PAP2!

WHY?

Because to make a call you device has to be registered with the provider you want to make and receive calls through, using a dial plan say against line 1 in the way you want it to you would have to have the username and password for both providers but you can only enter the username and password for one provider in line 1 and line 2!

Does that make sense? you cannot cross reference a dial plan on line one with any setup on line two either or vice versa!

So even if you entered the information for Voipfone on line 1 and the information for Voipcheap on line 2 you could not access each line via the dial plan!

I may be going about this the wrong way and it could be possible, but as far as I can make out and from what little information I found with regards to this it does not look good!

If you do find an answer let us know!
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#18
Maybe they use dedicated software or hardware to allow this!

I have not read through sipbrokers full info yet.

Have you tried asking them?

If not send them an email, ask them for setup information say you want to use them and voipcheap or something!

They seem the only provider who allow this. The fact that they don't even seem to provide full setup instructions don't look to good either! :?
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#19
Not yet, will wait to see what people come up with here. But what I meant is their dial plan references their proxy, so couldn't I use my dial plan to reference Voipcheap's proxy?
Thanks in advance!
Chris

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#20
You could yes, but as far as I'm aware everytime you make a call your username and password is used to verify you have permission to use that account.

otherwise anyone and everyone could make calls on somebody elses account without the need of any secure login info costing the account holder money.
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#21
So even if you setup line 1 with voipfone and enter details about voipcheap's proxy in your dial plan you wouldn't be allowed to dial out on that proxy because your login information is not present for that account.

I think that's how it works!
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#22
Ah so that's the difference with SIPbroker - you don't need a password and therefore you don't have one.

Damn the person who told me you could have seperate providers! :evil:
Thanks in advance!
Chris

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#24
acoolwelshbloke wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble! :lol:
Nice job - may I sharpen your pin?
Regards,

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Sovereign House
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E14 9SD
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Registered number: 05168033
Vat Registration Number 858850966

Telephone: 020 7043 5555
Fax: 020 7043 5556

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